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SS 68 – Teach Your Kids to Say No To The Mark of The Beast With Katherine Albrecht

Episode: 68

Guest: Katherine Albrecht

iTunes: Stream Episode

Katherine Albrecht is out with a new book titled I Won’t Take the Mark: A Bible Book and Contract for Children. In the book, she teaches children about the Book of Revaluations and talks a little bit more about it on the show. Katherine is also one of the founders of StartPage and StartMail, a private way to browse the internet and to send encrypted emails at the click of a button. She talks to Jason about the importance of teaching your children to say no to the mark of the beast, protecting your privacy, and a lot more on today’s episode.

 

Key Takeaways:
2:00 – Katherine talks a little bit about her projects and what they’re about.
8:00 – So many young Christians have no idea about the mark of the beast.
17:10 – Why aren’t the Churches talk about the mark of the beast?
22:50 – If a microchip was inject into you, how would you know about it?
28:25 -Katherine shares some of the measures she takes to ensure her life is kept private.
35:20 – Does it handicap you to take to such extreme measures for privacy? Katherine says no.

 

Tweetables:
“Many young Christians would fall easily into the hands of the beast because they don’t know how to say no.”

“The Amazon Echo can listen to you whisper from across the room and sends it all to Amazon.”

“Why would people be paying for the very bars of their own prison?”

 

Mentioned In This Episode:
AntiChips.com
ChipMeNot.org
VirtuePress.com
StartPage.com
StartMail.com
KatherineAlbrecht.com

 

Transcript

Jason Hartman:
It’s my pleasure to welcome Katherine Albrecht back to the show. She is the author of I Won’t Take the Mark :A Bible Book and Contract for Children. She’s also the founder of StartPage or one of the founders of StartPage I should say and that is a fantastic internet search engine service and you can hear more agbout it from here. So, Katherine, welcome, how are you?

Katherine Albrecht:
Hi, I’m great. Jason, it’s really good to be on your program and I’m really excited in the start of this new year to so many wonderful projects that have finally come to fruition after lots of years of effort. One of things you mentioned is my new book I Won’t Take the Mark, of course the StartPage search engine has been around since 2009, but we’re really excited because we’ve seen a lot of growth in that search engine in the last year and then we also have StartMail, which is fully private encrypted email so people can take their email out of the spotlight of Google and big brother.

Jason:
Yeah, Google is one of the biggest threats. It is unbelievable how much they know and it’s only getting worse, because they’re developing the pill you can swallow and it’ll monitor everything in your body, then that’ll be linked up to all their products I’m sure and between that and all their robots. This is getting pretty insane, it really is, it really is. Well, Katherine, I mean, you cover so much great content. You’re internationally known as a privacy research, a consumer advocate, a best selling author, you’ve got your nationally syndicated radio show, and you’ve just got a tremendous background. So, tell us about I Won’t Take the Mark, your latest creation.

Katherine:
Yeah, thank you. It’s a children’s book and I believe it’s fairly unique. I think it’s the only children’s book written on the Book of Revaluation for children in a picture book format and we have books for kids on Noah’s Ark, we have books for kids on Daniel in the lions’ den, on the beautiful Christmas story, but we don’t have any books for children explaining one of the key concepts of the Bible and that’s the Book of Revaluations.

So, I really wanted to set the record straight and give parents a way to express or teach to their children and grandchildren some of the key concepts of the Book of Revaluation and you may recall in the 70s and 80s when our generation, today’s parents and grandparents even grew up, the mark of the beast was a pretty common topic. It was in literature, it was on TV, there were even songs on the radio about it.

All preachers made a point of sharing that information with their congregation and I am no exception. When I was eight years old, my grandmother sat me down in a little farm house in the Midwest and made me promise not to take the mark of the beast and she explained there was coming a time when all people and this from Revaluation, the last book in the Bible, chapter 13, which you can remember, because it’s kind of an unlucky number in our culture and it’s the last three verse.

Verses 16 through 18 of Revaluation 13 refers to a time of all people great and small, rich and poor, free and bond; that means enslaved or imprisoned, will be caused to receive a mark on their right hand of their forehead and they will not be able to buy and sell unless they have the mark and taking that mark, that of course that’s the mark of the beast, symbolizes allegiance to rulership of essentially Satan.

So, we learned about this, I learned about it from my grandmother. She made me promise not to take the mark and it was a very easy promise to make because at that time I never seen a barcode. There was no internet. I was not aware of anyone having a credit card that I knew. Everybody paid with cash or checks. So, I really thought to myself I will keep this in my heart and I will share it with my children and grandchildren and some day hundreds or thousands of years in the future when this becomes possible or decedents will know not to do it and of course sure enough, we know have people actually putting people marks in and on their hand in order to buy and sell. Just a couple of weeks ago a guy put an imprintable microchip into his hand with Bitcoins, with his Bitcoin code inside of it so that he could buy and sell and store his Bitcoin digital cash or digital payment system literally in his hand.

Jason:
At least it’s not, at least it’s not part of main stream fiat currency. Although, honestly, I don’t have a lot of faith in Bitcoin by the way, but all I’m saying at least he didn’t do it with Apple Pay.

Katherine:
Yeah, exactly, but I think there are probably going to start linking up, because we know that the major banking systems now where they’re talking about a cashless future. They’re talking about a future which no transactions will be private or anonymous. They’ll be able to track all transactions and if you look at my website at AntiChips.com, we actually stopped the human, the implanting of human beings in this country back in 2007. The Blue Cross Blue Shield, Harvard University, the Alzheimer’s community care center down in Florida, all were involved in trials of implanting RFID chips into people for medical purpose to manage their medical records if they showed up unconscious or unable to identify themselves.

We actually, I worked for six months with Associated Press reporter Todd Lewan to break the news that those microchips that they were implanting in people cause cancer in between one and ten percent of laboratory animals that they’re injected into and we showed, you can see at AntiChips.com also ChipMeNot.com, which is our anti animal chipping website. You can actually see pictures of these huge festering tumors that form around the microchip and it’s not surprising, because first of all, it’s a foreign body, it’s not meant to be in flesh and second of all, it picks up and amplifies ambiental electromagnetic radiation. That’s how it functions. It actually picks up and reflects back a signal, an electromagnetic radio signal.

So, that inside of the body is a very bad idea. It actually creates changes in the tissues around it that can lead to cancer, so we were able to stop, in fact, since 2007 no one is implant any human beings in this country with a microchip since our story came out with the exception of people who are doing it as hobbyists. They’re going into tattoo parlors and body modification, sort of the underground, and having these put into them.

What shocks me though, Jason, is when I talk to Christian young people, teens and people in their 20s who grew up in the Church, went to Sunday school, went to vocation Bible school every summer, never missed a day of Church, and I mention the mark of the beast, they say, “The what and the huh?” I mean, they have no idea. So, somehow, it’s interesting that for 2,000 years Christians have made a point of passing this information along, because it’s in the bible, it’s a critical part of the bible, and look for it. They’ve looked for it for 2,000 years. Now that we’re actually the first generation alive to technically be able to implement the mark of the best, the churches have fallen very strangely silent. The preachers aren’t talking about it. The culture is not talking about it.

Jason:
Why do you think that is?

Katherine:
Well, I don’t it’s in the sake. We’re told in Revaluation that the beast of the end time will deceive the entire world if people will fall away from their faith, that people will fall away from the word of God, and they will fall away from relationship with God.

Jason:
So that’s certainly happening.

Katherine:
Yeah, absolutely and..

Jason:
But Katherine I want to ask you, the mark of the beast, doesn’t the mark of the beast come in a lot of different forms? I mean, can you go through some of those in addition to what you’ve already said maybe.

Katherine:
There are a lot of different denominations interpret this in different ways and I’m really of the belief that we’ve seen foreshadowing of the mark of the beat, but we’ve never seen a time when all people on the globe were forced to do anything. In fact, up until 5-10 years ago, we couldn’t even identify all people on the globe. There were pockets of aboriginal people in Australia, in the Amazon, else where that we didn’t even identify. So, it’s only been recently that we can identify all the people in globe. There was no way that this happened in the past. It wasn’t possible.

There will be a time in the future in which all people and I think the Bible is very clear that it means all people when it even goes into detail. Rich and poor, free and small, you know, free and enslaved, everybody, great and small, all people. So, it’s one of those few times in the Bible that something is so emphatic that’s it repeated in multiple different ways that all people will be cause to receive this mark and that simply hasn’t happened yet.

So, I believe that the mark of the beast is a pretty clear passage and scripture that talks about an actual, physical mark, Kerygma, which means sort of a piercing on an engraving on the hand or the forehead will be imposed on all people on the entire globe in order to buy and sell and that’s pretty straight forward. I know (#10:18?) wanna say it’s Sunday worship, which I don’t buy. A lot of folks say, “Oh that happened back in the Roman days and they’re talking about coins.” That doesn’t make sense, because the Romans certainty did not control all people of the globe, people in Asia and Africa, and the new world were certainty not under Roman rule.

So, I think it’s talking about a time in the future when all people will actually be caused to have some sort of mark and for 2,000 years people have tried to puzzle this out. Isaac Newton wrote over a million worlds by candle light with a quail pen trying to understand it and even though he was one of the smartest people that’s ever lived, he wasn’t able to do it because it just wasn’t here yet. Even when I was a little girl in the 70s, it was impossible to puzzle out what it might be, but now we’re seeing the technologies that make it possible.

We’re buying and selling with members left and right. Pretty soon there will be no other way to buy and sell than with numbered electronic accounts and we have the technology to put payment devices on wrist bands that people put on their wrists. They do that at Disney land and at Clochella, at the new Woodstock festival. We have the ability to encode those numerical identity systems into microchips and implant them into people’s hands. Now, whether the market of these will be a microchip or not, we don’t know, but we do know that somehow at some future point something will put on or in the hand.

We caution our children not to talk to strangers, we tell them not to do drugs, but we don’t tell them perhaps the most important message of all that has to with internal salvation and that’s the message of take the mark of the beast. We grew up knowing not to do it, but I’m surprised at how many Christian young people would fall easily like ripe fruit into the hands of the system like this, because they don’t know to say no. I wrote this book so that parents can inoculate their kids.

Jason:
You’re talking about cashless societies and so forth and the mark basically prohibits people from buying or selling and if you can’t engage in trade, you know, you’re going to starve, you’re out of the system. I don’t know if you heard, I’m sure you’ve heard this, but Sweden is potentiality going to be the first cashless country. Almost no transactions there are done in cash anymore. Well, that does offer some convenience, it also means that everything is tracked and traced and accounted for and if you can’t spend and trade privately pretty much your whole life is exposed, isn’t it?

Katherine:
I think we can look at from a secular just point of privacy and autonomy. The reason you protect your privacy is, well, privacy in itself is an important thing, but I think it’s also a means to an end. If you lose our privacy, if somebody is watching everything you do, you ultimately lose your autonomy and your independence and I think if we look at it from the point of view of the bible it makes perfect sense that the beast of the end time, the global leader of it will raise up will use this as a way to monitor and control all the people of the globe and a lot of times people are puzzled, “Why are we saying such privacy invasion? Why video cameras and televisions that can watch us.” By the way, that’s actually true if you check out the news stands on TV. So, why is that happening? I believe it is the enforcement arm of the coming beast system that will actually be able to look inside your home and see. How are you hiding out? Are you not complying? And make sure that everyone participates in that worship of that beast.

Jason:
I love what you talked about before on your radio show about how these RFID chips will soon be in all of the clothing we buy and then the sensors will be all over the place including in our homes and they will know what type of mood you’re in based on did you put on a red shirt or a black shirt. I mean, this is the kind of profiling, Katherine, is insane. I mean, this is insanely scary. It really is. The only thing one can hope for is to hide in the crowd and get lost in the crowd, but the problem is, anybody can be picked out of the crowd at any time and their whole life can be held to account.

Katherine:
Yeah, I think we’re just seeing the tip of the iceberg of what that form of surveillance and control is going to eventually look like. We’re really in the baby steps, believe it or not, of developing these technologies. I’m very concerned that, just as the Bible tells us, people will be deceived. We used to think in the 70s/80s that people would be screaming and rounded up into camps and forced implanted with the mark of the beast, but the reality that we’re seeing is people pay $500-$600 for a smartphone that can track their GPS location. They pay $300 for a drop cam with a camera and microphone that records everything that happens at their dinner or even in their bedroom and then uploads it all to Google.

We have the Amazon echo product, which is a $200 product with seven directional microphones that can listen to you whisper from across the room and sends it all to Amazon and I think, “Why would people be paying for the very bars of their own prison?” And yet, this is what the Bible tells us people will do. They will be deceived and they will fall into this and think it’s a wonderful thing. Even the Nazi under Hitler, the German people, the regular people, were really viewed Hitler as a savior. They viewed him as a wonderful leader and he was democratically elected.

People seem to have this profundity to be very deceived by very evil things that come into their midst parading as something good and one of the reasons, again, I wrote the I Won’t Take the Mark book is because I want children to grow up into adults who have discernment. Who say, “Wait a minute? Do I really want a camera in my bedroom that’s loading all my conversations and footage of me sleeping up to Google?” And the answer is no, you absolutely should not do that, but you’d be surprised at the number of people who are doing that.

So, I really think we Christians need to have discernment. If there’s one thing we should be praying for right now is discernment so that we don’t fall victim to the deceit that’s going to come over the entire world and I think more and more we’re going to find ourselves out of step with the rest of society as more and more people have Google Glass and are recording everything they do and having Fitbits and all these other forms of surveillance. Christians, I think, really need to take a step backwards from that and not participate.

Jason:
Yeah, good points. Okay, so anything we can do to, any more times on identify the mark of the beast, any more tips on avoiding it, any more on why, I mean, why aren’t the Churches talking about this stuff? It kind of blows my mind.

Katherine:
It is mind blowing and the Churches aren’t talking about it. I think the pastors are afraid, I think they’re ashamed, I think they’re embarrassed, I think they want to create a feel good experience and not an experience that actually talks about the predictions of the Bible and the way that we can look at the world around us and see the events of Revaluation coming to pass, exactly as it were written in the Bible. It’s extraordinary. It’s boom, boom, boom. The recreation is of Israel in the 1940s after the World War 2, unprecedented. I mean, there was some people that had close to 2,000 years with no home land and they managed to perverse their identity and actually get back to that little patch of ground that the Bible says. That’s exactly will happen in the end of time. So, it’s all coming together.

As far as recognizing the mark, I actually have a letter in the book and if you go to VirtuePress.com, you can actually click through, flip through the pages of the book and towards the end you can read this. You can click it and make it full size and you can actually read the letter I wrote for parents and grandparents an in it I advise them to help train their children to practice saying no. We’re a society that very much raises our children to be obedient and say yes to everything, but there comes a time when children have to say, “No, I won’t.” And certainty the mark is one.

The example I give are when you go into an amusement park or museum and they want to put a stamp on your child’s right hand. So, it’s very good practice to say no in that case. I’m sorry, for religious reasons we don’t allow any marking of our children’s hands and you will be surprised 100% of the time they’ll have an alternative method to let you back in or get back out or do whatever you want to do whether it’s a little stamp or little tag or whatever it might be, you know, a stamp on a card, but I think it’s really good for children to see their parents standing up for those beliefs and those values and another one is face painting.

You go to an outdoor fair and kids want to get face painting. It’s a good practice to say, “You can have any part of your face painted, but we don’t put a mark on your forehead.” No marks on my kid’s foreheads. That’s not a big deal and would it be the mark of the beast? Of course not, but what it does helps children practice standing up for their beliefs and saying no and it helps them to see you standing up for your beliefs and saying no. So, these are very simple things that you can do to help instill an awareness in children that the right hand and the forehead are not a place that anyone is ever allowed to mark so that later when somebody actually wants to come at them with, I don’t know, an injection device or some form of payment mark, they’ll know to say no and they’ll know how to say no, because they will have done it and seen you do it many times.

Jason:
Right, good stuff. Katherine, give out your website, tell people where they can find out more.

Katherine:
Absolutely. It’s VirtuePress.com. The book is called I Won’t Take the Mark. I do a daily radio program. Two hours every weekday afternoon. It is at KatherineAlbrecht.com. So that’s pretty easy to find and I also mention the private search engine and the private email program that I helped develop and that’s StartPage.com, which 5.5 million people are using now as an alternative to Google for their searches, because we’re fully private and StartMail.com, which we had over 70,000 people sign up as beta testers and for advance accounts to have an alternative to Gmail and Yahoo, which read every word you write. We don’t, it’s fully private, it’s fully encrypted, so you literally encrypt one little box that says encrypt this message and then the NSA no body else is able to read it as it passes through the internet. So, we’re pretty excited about that.

Jason:
Unless NSA has the encryption key, which they may.

Katherine:
Well, actually we know from Ed Snowden that encryption is one of the things that the NSA shakes fists at because they’re not able to crack it. Encryption and Tor are the two strongest things that you can do.

Jason:
When you say Tor, you mean the Tor browser?

Katherine:
Yes, the Tor, the onion router. The Tor browser. In fact, it was just an article out today or yesterday in which Ed Snowden yet again that the NSA is really thwarted by Tor and really finding that and encryption to be annoying and that they can’t break through them. So, the thing about encryption though, Jason, is encryption has always been really hard to use. It’s been very difficult. You almost needed a degree in computer science and we’ve got at StartMail.com, we’ve got it down to one click. So, literally a six year old could do it. Your grandmother can do. It’s simple and it’s very, very strong protection for your email so it’s not an open book.

We’re running a special right now. It’s $5 a month, but if you purchase a one year account, we will give you two free companion accounts that you can give to the people closet to you so you can start writing private emails to one another immediately and that’s StartMail.com. I’ve got a quick little video overview on there so you can see how it works an I’m really excited about it, because it really is its first product of its kind that makes powerful encryption available for private people for regular people.

Jason:
Katherine, last question for you before you go. You’re doing such great work. What is the status of chips within our bodies? Recently I was at the doctor had little quick procedure and they put me under. I was thinking, gosh, you know, if I wasn’t a little more paranoid about that I would think, how do I know I don’t have an implant? I’ve certainty seen and read about stuff like that. How small are these getting? How, if there’s any way, can they be detected? I suppose if you go get an MRI, you know, it’s going to hurt, because there’s metal – there’s gotta be metal I assume and it’s going to start trying to come through your body.

Katherine:
Well, I suppose the good news is that we don’t yet have a way to power implantable microchips to have any free range distance. There are folks working on ways to try to power an implantable chip so that it actually has transmitting range. Things that they’ve been looking at are using the electricity of the human body using the glucose of the human body using various biological means to provide power to an implant, but as of now, we really don’t have the ability to do that.

So, even if someone were to implant a microchip into someone else, that microchip would have maybe a foot of read range, so it would be useful if you had a reader in a doorway for example and you wanted to know when the person walked through the door, but it would not be useful if you wanted for example to beam a message to them or if you wanted to track their location.

To do that, you really do require a battery or power. In fact, even the pace makers that people have installed to regulate their heart beat, they have an external battery pack they actually have to charge that thing up periodically, because it runs down and it just stop works. So, in order to do that with a tracking device in a person, it would need to be, I would say, at least the size of a wrist watch and probably the size of a small pager. That’s not an insignificant thing that you’re not going to notice.

Jason:
So, here’s the thing though, maybe the work around to everything you just said and I’m sure they will have the technology soon to power it by glucose. I actually read something about the hope that pace makers could soon be powered by glucose and other kinds of implantable devices. I think some of that related to diabetes and stuff like that. Anyway, here’s maybe the work around like you said, you mentioned earlier, in the 70s people worried about rounded up, right, and there’s still some talk about FEMA camps and so forth, but now we’ve all got our phones with us. Maybe the phone is the reader. It could send enough near-field power to that chip within us and read it, right, especially if the chip is in or around our hip or stomach area where we usually keep our phones.

Katherine:
You’re exactly on target because your phone has the capability of transmitting any local information that it picks up at a huge distance. In fact, across the entire globe using the cellular phone system, so if it were possible to actually RFID reader in a phone that was effective, I’ve yet to see one that actually works, although the Samsung has claimed to have them, they don’t work at all. If it were possible to do something like that, then yes, it would be possible to actually have your phone to pick up a signal that it picks up from an RFID implant or injection or something surgically implanted and transmit that at a distance. So, that would be entirely possible and when you mentioned the phones. I think it’s important that we recognize something about these phones that we’ve all become addicted to. They’re incredibly addictive. There’s something about the glowing light and the mechanism..

Jason:
It’s like television, video screens are like that, yeah, you can’t take your eyes off.

Katherine:
Absolutely. So, we used to worry in the 80s and 90s about television addiction and turn off your TV and get outside and let your kids play and now we’ve become wholesale. We’ve shifted our television addiction over to addiction to these screens, which can transmit television and video games and Facebook and all sorts of things. Again, I’m going to kind of come back to this idea that we thought it would be some mandatory thing and yet you have 90% + of American’s voluntarily caring this thing around.

Jason:
That’s the way to do it, just get people to volunteer, you know? Volunteer for the draft, you know?

Katherine:
Yes, they make it appealing so they can’t say no, exactly, and then they’ll feel privileged to have the, the privilege or the ability to have such an incredibly fabulous device when in reality it can be abused in so many ways.

Jason:
Well, look at the way they got everybody into Facebook, you know, there are fairly substantial rumors that Facebook was one of the original funders of Facebook was the CIA as a data mining project.

Katherine:
Well, of course, that would be a smart thing, because remember, the late 1990s they actually passed a driver’s license privacy bill and I remember a bunch of us privacy activists back in the late 97/98 complaining about this bill because for the very first time it meant that our photographs that had been taken for our driver’s license would be made commercially available to outside companies and we were freaking out in 97/98, because your photograph could not be obtain anywhere, any way. No one had your photograph. The only person who had your photograph was the DMV and nowadays you’ve got Facebook, which has not only the photographs of Facebook users, but they insidiously and nastily actually ask people to ID those in their photos. So, if they have you at a class reunion..

Jason:
I know. It’s like, it’s the world’s biggest lineup. I mean, you know, like a lineup, when you are accused of a crime they get freak people to go in or other criminals to go in that didn’t commit that crime and then the real suspect and basically we’ve got this lineup of well over a billion people now identify and Google Glass can use facial recognition to just identify them walking around even though they don’t let the public have access to the facial recognition. It’s unbelievable.

Katherine:
Don’t use Facebook except as a billboard. I have a Facebook account, but I use it to advertise my guests and topics that I’m working on that are very public. I would put an ad on TV about it if I could. I never post anything private on Facebook. I make a point of not friending my actual friends, because I don’t want Facebook or anybody else know who my friend’s are, that’s no body’s business. I think that is a good safety rule for using Facebook. The other rule I would say is never, ever identify anyone to Facebook. So, if it says, hey, upload your entire address book, we’ll make it easier to find your friends, that’s a play so that they can get the unlisted numbers of people who have private information who don’t want to be listed. So, Facebook is really sneaky and very nasty.

Jason:
It’s just in a crazy world. I just wonder, Katherine, how we’re going to look back on this in 20 or 30 years. You know, things have changed so dramatically in the past decade. How are we going to look back on this, you know? How is this all going to shake out? It’s amazing.

Katherine:
Well, my book, my first book Spychips actually came out close to 10 years ago. It was 2006 and that book, we spelled out exactly what these companies and big corporations plan to do in black and white. I mean, we had their patent documents, we had their internal documents, we went over 30,000 documents to put that book together. Everything in there is foot noted in Spychips and people said, “Oh, c’mon, that’ll never happen.” And now they’re coming back, I mean, I’ve heard from a number of people saying, “I’m sorry, I wasn’t mature enough,” Was one email I received, “I wasn’t mature enough. I thought you were nut and I wasn’t mature enough to see what you were writing was really true and here it is.”

So, I think there are those of us who are out there, Jason, yourself clearly among them who are sounding the alarm and trying to wake people up and there’s more unpleasant words to hear than, I guess you told me so, because there’s no satisfaction in saying, I told you so to other people. I would much rather say, gosh, I guess I was wrong ten years ago. How great none of those things happened and yet every single one of them is happening, so I think we need to wake up and I think we need to unplug from our addictions.

I think we need to not be lend by the nose by the things we are addicted to and because even a new Samsung TVs that we mentioned have the two way microphones and cameras in them. The smart TVs, even people who know they have that won’t send them back to the store, because they are addicted to the TV. They say, “Well, I don’t like it, but I really wanna have my TV, so I’m going to put up with it.”

Jason:
The trick is that the powers that be like in the Facebook example, the CIA, can fund or subside this stuff for a greater long term project that they have. So, they can make the Samsung TV less expensive than the comparable Sony TV, for example, because it has this technology and make it their by more appealing to consumers and then they can take and take a company that won’t sell out decent human principles and they won’t subside them, so the playing field is unleveled and that’s just how they get things in the market, they can just put it into the market that way. So, it’s very dangerous, it really is.

Katherine:
It really is and I think that the big development of the last 50 years as been governments going from doing what the Soviet Union and what North Korea has done and what other countries have tried to do, which is really impose their will upon the people to taking advantage of the insights of the 20th psychology and marketing and finding ways to get people to believe it’s their idea.

So, where Stalin listened to everybody’s phone calls and pounded you into the ground if you disagreed, what’s happening today is you’re willingly revealing all of that personal information through your social media accounts, through your use of Gmail or Yahoo, which is an open book and certainty read. Not only can be read, but is read every single email is read in all the keywords are exchanged including your profile and you try to tell that to somebody and they say, “Oh, I love my Gmail account.”

So, it really is a shift I believe in oppression tactics to make people think it’s their own idea to put a camera and a microphone in their living room or in their bedroom, to make people think it’s their own idea to put microphones all over their home that transmit information externally. They can think it’s their own idea to buy a smart TV that’s able to watch them.

Jason:
So it’ll be our own idea to implant a chip near our brain so that we can have all of our phone’s features just implanted in us.

Katherine:
That’s right! That’s right and you’re going to say, “Wow, it’s the coolest thing, I’m saving up my money. I can’t wait to get it.” So, it’s totally different from what historically we thought will come to pass and this is why I say, Christians and people who are tuned in, even non-Christians, people who are tuned in to the control aspects of this have got to pull out. There’s a really good line in Revaluation that says, “Come out of her my people,” It’s referring to Babylon, “Come out of her my people less you be partakers of her sins and receivers of her plagues.” There comes a time when you just have to come out of Babylon. You have to say, guess what? I’m not going to do that anymore. My husband and I, we’ve gotten rid of our TV, we don’t have any video games, I went through my entire music collection and got rid of probably 3/4 of it, because I just, you know, I sat down and looked at the lyrics and went, “Wow! That’s really disturbing.”

So, I think there is certainty you can be apart of society and be a functioning member of society, but I don’t have a smartphone. I did briefly and I realized it wasn’t good for me and I switched back to just a regular cellphone. So, I have a flip phone that can make phone calls and that’s it. If I want to get on the internet when I’m out, I take my laptop, I have a hotspot, it’s a big pain, and it’s probably good that it’s a pain that I have to go to all of that length, because I probably have no business being on the internet when I’m out and about in the world anyway.

So, it’s really just being conscious and thoughtful. We have a television if we want to watch something, we can get or we can download it or we can rent a DVD, so there are ways that we still are able to see things, but it’s a very conscious decision to say, I want to get on the internet right now even though I’m traveling or I want to watch this television series even though I don’t have TV or I don’t have cable. I think we need to start making more of those choices.

Jason:
You’re right, but see Katherine, you’re weird. I’m joking, but really doing all of those things, you kind of become a bit of an outcast. You’re just not in touch with a lot of your friends and society and listen, in principle, I agree with you completely, I just want you to know that, but it becomes really hard. It would have been like, you know, in the 60s not having a TV when TV was going great guns. It would have been like earlier not having a phone when everybody was getting phones. You really do handicap yourself to some extend. I mean, in all fairness on balance, would you say that?

Katherine:
I would say on balance no. In fact, I think I’m probably better informed than the people I know who have access to all of these things. I think I use my time in a more structured way. I think I accomplish more. I don’t have that sense, so I’m going to push back just a little bit on that. It does make me different, it makes me different from the people around me, but I think in ways that are really better. So, when I’m out at a restaurant and I’m looking at the people I’m sitting with, I’m not looking down sort of-ly at my cellphone trying to do whatever, you know. So it’s really, they’re conscious decisions to do something a different way because the different way is a better way.

Jason:
Right. Good points. Well, Katherine Albrecht thank you so much for joining us. You’re always a delight to talk to and very, very informative, of course. We appreciate the work you’re doing and it’s going to get really scary when those chips become self-powered and you know, wow.

Katherine:
Yes, it’s coming. Well, so warn your kids. The book is called I Won’t Take the Mark. It’s at VirtuePress.com. It comes with a certificate. We have beautiful frames so you can help your child sign a certificate promising, taking a vow essentially, never to take the mark of the beast and never worship anyone but God, to call on Jesus Christ to keep that promise and what some people do if you have four kids, you can buy one book and each book comes with one certificate, you can buy three extra certificates on the website. You can also buy matching frames. I went through a 100 different frames to find the three that best offset the certificate, but this way you can hang it on your kid’s wall and they get to see that promise the entire time they’re growing up and no one is going to catch them unaware if that happens. So, it’s called I Won’t Take the Mark, VirtuePress, it’s also at Amazon, although I’m not a big fan of Amazon for multiple reasons.

Jason:
There we go again!

Katherine:
My website KatherineAlbrecht.com. My radio show and StartPage and StartMail, the new private email service. It’s all out there and it’s all on the internet.

Jason:
Katherine Albrecht, thanks for joining us.

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